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That's everything I just said in a jumbled way. Want to fly to a place where it's just you and me, nobody else so we can be free. I keep closing my eyes, but I can't block you out. Does it yearn enough? And I want to see if "All The Things She Said " passes that test. I think we have a framework for the Gutowitz Test for for knowing if something is lesbian enough. I feel like I'm in an Avril Levigne music video." That feeling of wanting something that isn't there is a very boiled down version of what it felt like to grow up as a closeted lesbian teen. Even if the experience isn't explicitly queer, that the experience of looking out a window wistfully and feeling like, "God, I'm just so angsty.
But when I was growing up, that was the case. GUTOWITZ: I think so much of lesbianism is yearning for another person in a way that you can't necessarily say out loud. You recently released your first memoir called "Girls Can Kiss Now." In it you write, "All of the wistfulness of staring out of a car window, that yearning for something, anything to whisk you away from your sad, dull life, that's lesbianism." Why is that lesbianism? So Jill, what runs through your head when I say, "All the things she said running through my head?" This interview has been edited for length and clarity. It's Been A Minute senior producer Barton Girdwood talked this out with author Jill Gutowitz ( Girls Can Kiss Now) and journalist Daisy Jones ( All The Things She Said). But despite roleplaying as lesbians for their own success, is there something redeemable in how they represented lesbianism at a time when no one else would put two women kissing on camera? And if so, what does that representation say about what it meant to be a lesbian in 2002 versus in 2022? During performances, they made a point to do as they did in their video and make out.įrom Harry Styles to Katy Perry, debates over queerbaiting have raged online, and t.A.T.u.'s "All The Things She Said" fits squarely in that lineage. It topped the charts in 13 countries, and in the United States the duo would perform the song over and over on live television. That did not stop the song from becoming a global sensation. The video was banned from UK television for being "not really suitable for children." released their smash single "All The Things She Said." The song is a grungy euro-dance track, and the video features the lead singers Lena Katina and Julia Volkova dressed in schoolgirl uniforms and making out in the rain. In September 2002, the Russian pop duo t.A.T.u. In your defense, it's impossible to separate the two. When you come across the words "All The Things She Said," what runs through your head? The catchy smash single from 2002 - or the lead singers infamously kissing?
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performs on stage at the 2003 MTV Movie Awards held at the Shrine Auditorium on in Los Angeles, California.
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